Welcome to the dark side.
Its funny how things look when you step out of the box. venting.
Yep. It's an emotional rollercoaster to say the least.... at least for the first few months.
Welcome to the dark side.
Its funny how things look when you step out of the box. venting.
Yep. It's an emotional rollercoaster to say the least.... at least for the first few months.
.. the new wbt$ donation arrangement/ jw kingdom hall bank account theft... is a very hot topic right now... the wbt$ is literally going to clean out kingdom hall bank accounts,filled with donations from jws... that theft is going to happen world wide..the wbt$ is going to steal from 7 million plus jw`s... .. we have jw elders here on jwn,that know whats going on... they "serve" in kingdom halls,they are "supposed" to be looking after the welfare of the average jw... they know there is a 4 page letter,only one page will be read to the congregation..the rest will be kept secret... they know the wbt$ is about to steal jw donations..on a world wide scale!!!...
.. i would like to know what you active jw elders are going to do about this??!!...
are you going to let "your" congregation know about the other 3 secret pages?...
Owtlaw- I agree 100% with what you’ve posted.
Marking to see how this plays out. Do the active elders who lurk and or post here have the guts to stand up for what is right?
hello there i am new to the faith and have been studying for about a month.
i am very excited and hungry for the truth and have not missed a meeting or study since the memorial.
we do about 2 bible studies a week.
jnjburkett – Sorry for calling you a troll. Your posts about the YMCA and you knowing active J-dubs who go regularly struck me as odd. I grew up in South East Washington state and I remember my mom shitting all over the YMCA and how we, as witnesses, should never go there. I was born-in in 1983 and just left 2 ½ years ago. Many of us have lost a lot because we woke up and left this cult. Be very careful. They can be very persuasive and twist the bible scriptures to fit their belief system.
Sorry again and welcome to JWN. Check out jwfacts.com and good luck.
diamondiiz How many of you knew about YMCA while being dubs?
I did and never considered it more than thinking it was a “false Christian” organization. I was a typical JW zombie up until about 3 years ago. Maybe it’s a regional thing? In the nearly 10 years I've been here in Colorado, I have never heard anyone mention it.
we have a version with our commentary: http://youtu.be/yn17rj_pyd4.
we also have an un-cut, un-edited version of the audio: http://youtu.be/pihfucr38sw.
asl version: http://youtu.be/dd635pqpdle.
I've only heard one other "marking talk".
How do you know it's a "marking talk" and not a "local needs"?
to hawaii!!
what were you thinking?.
ive been to the big island twice when i was a 11 and 13. my sister lived there and flew me out.
Hawaii Collage.
to hawaii!!
what were you thinking?.
ive been to the big island twice when i was a 11 and 13. my sister lived there and flew me out.
Also saw this.
My MIL said on Fridays the Japanese witnesses do this. The English do it on Saturdays. Down town Honolulu. She has posted a pic of herself standing in front of them on FB.
to hawaii!!
what were you thinking?.
ive been to the big island twice when i was a 11 and 13. my sister lived there and flew me out.
SOOOO MUCH FUN!
Got a tattoo too. My second.
hello there i am new to the faith and have been studying for about a month.
i am very excited and hungry for the truth and have not missed a meeting or study since the memorial.
we do about 2 bible studies a week.
w79 1/1 p31:
"In joing the YMCA as a member a person accepts or endorses the general objectives and principles of the organization. He is not simply paying for something he receives, such as when buying things being sold to the public at a store. (Compare 1 Corinthians 8:10; 10:25). Nor is his membership merely an entry pass, as when a person buys a theatre ticket. Membership means that one has become an integral part of this organization founded with definite religious objectives, including the promotion of interfaith. Hence, for one of Jehovah's Witnesses to become a member of such a so-called "Christian" association would amount to apostasy."
I too smell a troll.
xjw protests & videos.
.. i am disturbed by some of the more aggressive apostates posting videos on youtube,like "a jw memorial to remember" where a drunk man goes to a memorial and downs the whole glass of wine as a sort of protest.
this video and others like it received positive comments from aawa members.
Welcome Shemp. I think you are correct with what you said.
It is human nature to focus on the negative. Videos like these might be a release for the ones involved. But videos like these might push ones who are questioning their faith back to the organization because it reinforces the WT’s notion that all apostates are evil, crazed and mentally diseased. I do believe it is the vast minority who make videos like this but the majority of people not “in the know” might think it is the majority of apostates who make these videos. I don’t think it helps those of us who are living our normal lives away from the Borg and want to set a good and normal example for our extended family to see we are normal away from the Borg, not crazy and mentally diseased. It doesn’t help our cause but I do get the sentiment behind the videos.
so recently there have been several posts with references to talks and articles that imply the following:.
most of those who learn ttatt or fade from the "truth", are actually practicers of bad things, eg immorality, hence that is why 'we' now find fault with the org?.
i find this so offensive that they imply such.
I grew a goatee. - one or 2 I knew while in did this but we considered “spiritually weak”. I got a tattoo and reserved to get another one in June- some I knew while “in” had tattoos but were considered “spiritually weak” and lost their “privileges”. I smoke a cigar once or twice a month during the summer. I have heard stories of elders doing the same privately with other elders. So if any of this makes me a “sinner” than so be it. I haven’t changed much since leaving. I cuss the same amount too, just don’t feel guilty about it anymore. Oh… I smoked pot a few times since leaving. Don’t care for it. Just wanted to try it.
I have been out of the cult for a little more than 2 years. Sober from alcohol for 3 and a half years. I sobered up in two ways, one from alcohol and the other from religion. Not sure which is better.